I'm with you all the way when you say you can't judge the Church too quickly. I'm frequently unimpressed on first listen but I know its only a matter of time. My expectations are too high and they do take a while to sink in sometimes. I sometimes view the new material as an intruder into the almost flawless back catalogue and treat it with suspiscion until it wins me over. Can't comment on the new album yet as I don't have it! But I'm glad to see Pangaea is your least favourite as I totally agree with your comments on it. Nice and all.