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Apr 19 09 5:38 AM
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JEAN ZAMMIT wrote: Hi Stefan I really agree with you about Deadman's Hands...there is a lot of Dulli in that riff and what makes it great is that there is a Church riff shadowing it. ULTC...their pop album ?...its not exactly twee is it? Honestly in all my years on this planet it is the only Church album I never go back to. Then again I've got a mate here who thinks it was the dogs bollocks. He was a lot into AENT which makes me think really Church fans can be divided into 2 cateogories. the ones that are more into the pompous floyd grandiose sound...ie aent/ultc and the ones that like the more direct and experimental approach...ie fy/u23
I don't think it's that simple. While you could possibly put the church songs into two groups - the 'poppier' stuff versus the progressive stuff - it's next to impossible to come to any real consensus as to where the former stops and latter begins. I personally don't care if the song is more structured or more spontaneous as long as it does not sound forced and I think either method is capable of that problem from time to time. My preferred type of music must at least have a hint of a melody and not outstay its welcome (seven and a half mins is okay but eleven to eighteen may be stretching it). If you have a melody or a theme (lyrics preferred) then you can embellish and stretch it to its logical conclusion but it must not be about the mood alone. I think The Church gradually got into that kind of routine post Starfish despite some intermittent brilliance. By HOB I think they were rediscovering the fact that music is best when it is pleasing first then you can layer on as much atmosphere as you like as long as the point of the music does not get lost in the murk, a point which by this stage could still do with a bit more work. AENT was better still despite being a bit too 'pregnant'. FY was its equal but the production was a bit suspect on a few key tracks and it could have been shed of a couple and it would have had just as much impact. ULTC was in trouble from the beginning with a name like that and I think the band were trying a bit too hard and that is where the 'forced' thing comes in. Perhaps it is ironic that the more 'Floydish' songs are the ones that work better on repeated listens as opposed to the ones where they sound so desperately like they are trying to outdo themselves. The album closer is an exception to this and listening to Unified Field as streamed on Myspace gives me the sneaking suspicion that they have gone and made a superior remix in secret as the chorus seems to jumps out at the listener better.
It's too early to no just exactly where the new album will fit into the scheme of things. For now it is right up there because it flows so magnificently there is only one track that bothers me a little but that is more on principle than through any overt negative effect on the ears.
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