btw, just got home from driving for the past 4 hours to take my daughters back to my ex and listened to untitled pretty exclusively for a couple of those hours and had a revelation. i'm not too quick to jump on any "this is the greatest church album" bandwagons because there are many that are too close to me for to choose an ultimate. i am willing to say tho' that untitled (and painkiller too) has by far the best kilbey singing in the history of the band. so many inflections conveying different emotions all over the place. i have always been a big fan of sk's vocal style but these last two albums are way out in front of what he has laid down before. just frackin' outstanding vocal work imo.