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May 9 09 9:31 PM
Faith Healer
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May 10 09 1:07 AM
OK friends - first of all, SpiritMarch you don't have to track me down. My email address is rf@rickfoster.net. I look forward to hearing from you.
Secondly, some people are questioning my choice of the verb "to suck" when describing the album. I could choose many other verbs as many of you have suggested, and I am quite aware of what the average person assumes "suck" means. I stand by my original statement: #23 sucks.
Third, the question of marketability has arisen. Since when has The Church even considered "pop" songs? The answer lies in the fact that after
Starfish, with Milkyway and Arista, they came out with a great album, in fact I love every song on GAF except Monday Morning, but Arista said it wasn't "poppish" enough. So, The Church said "fuck you, this is our album we are releasing". Then they were dropped, but did The Church care? of course not. That is what makes them great. They don't care about having a #1 and craving to the industry moguls.
I do question, though, their choice of venues sometimes. Was anyone out their at the Charley Goodnights show in Raleigh, North Carolina 1999 GAF tour? It was a terrible place, but I liked the show. At one point Kilbey said something like this: " there are supposed to be lights and such surrounding us which creates a certain feeling, but here we cannot do that."
Sorry, I lost track of what I was talking about -I'm getting drunk and stoned and listening to #23 and I still don't like it.
Flame on!
May 10 09 1:35 AM
I must add, however, that the Forget Yourself show in London at the Mean Fiddler was superb and they jammed for about 3 hours
Was anyone there? They opened with "Sealine", but then went into ":Theatre" then to "Song in Space". Great show, but they also tend to start too early, in my opinion. This was a Friday night, or maybe Saturday, in a city of 10 million and they start at 8?
They also started early in Chapel Hill. We were taking mushrooms and ecstacy before the show, waiting for it to kick in, but I missed the first 2 songs. I came in on "Blood Money".
St. Louis -same thing, started at like 8 or 9.
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May 10 09 4:59 AM
Tar Heel - in your dreams The right venue can be hard to coordinate on a tour, sometimes the one you want just isnt available at the right time, the stars just dont align when you're due to hit that town. I see Harrahs in KC is on the tour schedule. This is a casino? Cant imagine the ambience will be great, but hopefully the audience will be. Cobalt Blue - picture the drums pounding in the dark, curtain slowly opens to a spotlight on TimEbandit.. followed by spotlights one by one on each band member in an eerie reddish glow. A killer concert opener and the guitar solos are out of this world.
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May 10 09 5:24 AM
Tar Heel wrote: I must add, however, that the Forget Yourself show in London at the Mean Fiddler was superb and they jammed for about 3 hours Was anyone there? They opened with "Sealine", but then went into ":Theatre" then to "Song in Space". Great show, but they also tend to start too early, in my opinion. This was a Friday night, or maybe Saturday, in a city of 10 million and they start at 8?
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May 10 09 7:10 AM
May 10 09 7:14 AM
Altres wrote: I was there and it was f*cking amazing, they rocked with their cocks out. The next night in Brussells was also fabulous, but in an entirely different way. They played a brilliant venue called Botanique under a dome of stars and they were incredibly expressive and refined.
I was there and it was f*cking amazing, they rocked with their cocks out. The next night in Brussells was also fabulous, but in an entirely different way. They played a brilliant venue called Botanique under a dome of stars and they were incredibly expressive and refined.
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May 10 09 9:09 AM
Spirit March wrote: The right venue can be hard to coordinate on a tour, sometimes the one you want just isnt available at the right time, the stars just dont align when you're due to hit that town. I see Harrahs in KC is on the tour schedule. This is a casino? Cant imagine the ambience will be great, but hopefully the audience will
The right venue can be hard to coordinate on a tour, sometimes the one you want just isnt available at the right time, the stars just dont align when you're due to hit that town. I see Harrahs in KC is on the tour schedule. This is a casino? Cant imagine the ambience will be great, but hopefully the audience will
May 10 09 7:03 PM
May 10 09 7:47 PM
I just felt that if Untitled #23 is a bit like Seance, then it´s logical that the opener is a strange one. Deadman´s is the real opener but it would have been too big and massive for the rest of the album to follow. The mood that would have been set with Deadman´s at track 1 would have been the wrong one. Therefore it´s good that the first one wanders all over the place making the listener ready for what there is to offer.
I´m still waiting for the vinyl to get the full 3D-experience. It should be so cool, it has to be.
May 10 09 8:58 PM
May 10 09 9:35 PM
I had no doubts if I get the vinyl. I was just thinking about could I justify myself buying it twice just to get an autographed one. I have so many autographed items now, 6 or 7, that this one could be without them. By the time the vinyl arrives the album isn´t on so heavy rotation anymore. Second Motion made some good offers though and the business way of doing things is really something else compared to friggin Cookin Vinyl, which wasn´t cooking much and there certainly wasn´t any vinyl. I could have ordered the full deluxe Santa´s bag with all the items if it had been offered right at the start but unfortunately the t-shirt pack and the availability of the EP´s took away most of that need. The Churchy universe is in constant move and there is new items in the horizon.
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May 11 09 2:42 AM
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May 11 09 8:46 AM
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May 11 09 1:01 PM
That slight trace of mystery and ambiguity in the title of Untitled #23 is a vague signal that the Church is returning to the spacy, hazy territory of their heyday on this, their 23rd album. The Church has never quite left this swirling psychedelia behind, but Untitled #23 has a delicate, suspended quality, floating at an elevated distance above earth. It's familiar yet not tired because the Church has a unified sense of purpose here, crafting tightly written songs that are then expanded and elongated when recorded, giving them an otherworldly quality. What impresses is the assured, masterly touch: the Church has been at this so long, they weave their spell seamlessly, so it's only when examining the list of the many, many records that preceded this that Untitled #23 seems unique: they have done many good, verging on excellent records, over the past decade, but only this has the songs and the atmosphere to be placed next to their best albums.
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